sharwil avocado vs hass

I am from Nice (France, Europe), and I would like to plant two avocado trees in my garden. If you want to maintain that upright growth, then its best to limit the fruitset or pinch the tips of branches as they grow so that they fork more and are better able to hold a load of fruit. Reed Avocado Greengold Avocado. Hi Greg, I live on the California Coast in between Santa Cruz and Half Moon Bay, were at about 800ft elevation and 1 mile inland from the coast. but Im not sure. The mainland now accepts for resale, sharwil avocados, given the need for a great tasting avocado in winter. And then if youve got a productive Reed (which are always productive, actually), whose fruit youll want to start eating in summer, then youll only need your Hass fruit to last around three or four months (late spring to early summer). However, the main challenge is that different varieties grow at different rates so you have to prune in order to make sure that one (or more) dont take over and shade out the other(s). The Sir Prize avocado is defined primarily by a distinctive ridge along one side which becomes less noticeable when the fruit ripens. My question is how do you recommend getting rid of the persea mite? The tree is supposedly over 40 and is a seedling with both Fuerte and Hass characteristics yet again the flavor has that tanginess only Fuerte has. (See more about Reed in my post, The Reed avocado tree: a profile.). I do know MacArthur avocados. It is so hard to know when a variety will taste good coming from a tree in your yard based on the information of others, I totally agree. Started producing at 3? Yes, heat tolerance would be a desirable quality indeed. Ill ask and post an update here as I learn. Im planning on planting a Reed. Your email address will not be published. I can give it time but wonder if starting new isnt a better option. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. Im considering a 6 X 10 planting. Eli also sells his avocados at farmers markets, and the one closest to you is in Corona Del Mar. Thanks for writing. Greg, what rootstocks would you recommend for GEM, Lamb and Bacon? To mitigate the clay soil, the planting area is raised, and the adjacent rock wall is free standing to allow drainage. (Note: I took this photo in June, at the tail end of the Fuerte season, at the height of the Hass season, and at the very beginning of the Reed season.). Cliff. I have bought a number of trees there. But the other VIVEROSBROCKAW does!!!!!!!! If they dont get a good start to life, they usually struggle forever. I would like to let you know how my adventure in avocado growing proceeds. Nice work! Check the photos and descriptions of cankers and discoloration on avocados at this UC IPM page, and maybe one will fit your Gwen: http://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/C008/m008bpcanker.html. I know Sunland, and I can empathize with how you and your avocados feel. The wood is soft, the leaves are soft. Lamb Hass Avocado. It is simply an awesome fruit. Finally, Ill say that if I had to have two avocado trees of any one variety, it would definitely be Hass. My guess is that you can grow just about any variety that does well in Southern California since your greenhouse probably stays warm enough in spring to make B-type varieties set fruit well. by Laurie Meadows. We might be on to something. And compared to Reed, Fuertes production isnt as consistently high. In my (very limited) gardening experience, I noticed that choosing the right variety is not everything, one has to be sure it will function well in the conditions ones got. Ive heard people say that too, but Ive never found evidence for it. What could have caused this issue ? Thought you and others might be interested in knowing that Gwen avocados are currently available at Elis Farmstand in Fallbrook. This will help me determine where i will plant it. Avocados love it just above 70. But thats actually not why Id choose it to grow as my only tree. I hope to hear more updates from you. Thank you and thank you for all the information you have shared on your site!! When you put a thick layer of tree trimmings down, do you turn them to allow air to circulate? We are also planting 14 varieties of guaranteed dwarf coconut trees for seed to grow future dwarf coconut seed farms on all islands. Together you will get year round fruit, theyre small for avocado trees and better tasting than what you find in stores. This is so fun! But the distinctive smooth texture and nutty yellow flesh of a perfect Fuerte is so appealing to me that I dont even want to adulterate it as guacamole. On second thought. If ever back this way soon would compensate you gladly to do a quick evaluation of right and wrong approach here. For your milder location though, this might not be important. 2 Reed (on Dusa) for me and the cathedral, and one Bacon (on Dusa) for the cathedral. I have a Hass that is a few years old from Durling Nursery. This way I still have the varieties (and I hope I get as much fruit as possible from them) but Im not wasting space and water on a lot of unproductive foliage. Reed (another type A variety) was a late season flowerer. So Im only guessing here. Distinguishing characteristics of the Sharwil avocado include its size, shape, and color. Kindest regards, by Greg Alder | Mar 23, 2018 | Avocados | 167 comments. The challenge is that many of them have similar harvest seasons, which are spring into summer: Hass, Sharwil, GEM, Gwen. This way, if one performs significantly better than the other, then you could replace the poor performer with a tree on the rootstock that you know does well in your soil. This high quality, black-skinned avocado is up to 25% larger than its parent, Mexicola. They're known to be exceptionally creamy. I found several great articles: http://www.avocadosource.com/WAC8/Section_02/DeVilliersAI2015.pdf Its crazy that these bigger nurseries carry many more inferior varieties, such as Zutano, while less frequently have Reed. I also planted a Queen avocado tree in the spot where the Holiday was. var. Thank you so much for your response. I think, my garden is in the 10a zone. One of his favorites was the Nabal. dont know how to grow in your region, Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. We will sell trees at various ages and transport to other islands. Mexicola is the oiliest variety that I have tasted but its a bit too intense for me, and I wouldnt say its one of my favorites. Funny thing is that Hass was once an outsider. I am familiar with Fuertes history and that it grows wide making dense planting difficult and that some years the production is very low. So I have got as close as I can while understanding that the season is going to be affected by many other things anyway. Oh!, and do I ever miss a good fuerte which I used to sell off a fruit truck next to Golden Gate Park in SF in the 70s. What would you recommend? maybe you missed my question on May 2, 2020 or I missed your reply, with 3 citrus trees and room for one avocado on the central coast of California, Cayucos. Yet the tree is smaller in that it is an upright instead of a large spreading type, the fruit are small but turn black when ripe (about the size of tiny hass found 8 in a bag), and the tree is a heavy producer (at least it was this time). Will the new leaves burn? Sharwil is not as 'nutty' as Hass, but has a mild but rich fullness of flavor and lingering creamy after-taste that transcends Hass. So from Armstrong and Evergreen and Walter Andersen, etc. Australia's avocado industry is largely populated by two varieties: Hass and Shepard. Super Hass Avocados are a dwarf variety, which make them great container plants. Just a couple days ago, I visited the largest organic avocado orchard in California, and they recently planted a lot of Sharwil trees. Thank you so much. A whole avocado contains around 11.8 grams of carbs ( 1 ). Thanks for the good ideas. Vasco, thank you for your kind message. Because Cayucos is so cool, Id stay away from B type avocados in general, including Sir-Prize. When you talk to them they are totally clueless. So, I found an avocado variety calendar, on gregalder.com, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_20170831_071354-1-e1504273347755.jpg, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/WP_20160104_09_07_06_Pro.jpg, but I am still struggling and have no idea what second variety would be the best choice. The Mexicola and Lamb both look like they might be based on the pictures I have seen. In addition to irrigating the tree before the heat hits, watering down the foliage (and fruitlets) during the heat helps. Phoenix Avocado (Mendez No.1) Aravaipa Avocado Palo D'Oro Avocado Hellen Avocado Sharwil (Kona Sharwil) Ardith. But its good to keep in mind that the trees are small so you cant expect them to produce as much as fast as a vigorous variety like Hass especially when the Holiday fruit are much larger than Hass. GEM could do well for you, as could just about any other variety. You could try one of those. Guacamole heaven! Make sure that you water the tree every day to retain the moisture, and remove it to an area that still gets sunlight during cold weather moths, but is protected from frosts and freezes (a large sunny room is perfect). Most people think Fuerte tastes better, but Bacon is a nice milder, sweeter avocado for the winter. The fruit must be of good size. Is the white wash enough? Pinkertons are very productive, especially considering that they are a smaller tree, and like Fuerte, Pinkertons also mature a bit earlier than Hass. If you want it to grow both up and wide, Id plant a Hass. I dont think youll regret a Hass/Bacon pair unless you dont like the milder taste of Bacon. Bacon, Its very disrespectful when people put such videos on YouTube or otherwise share such information online. The fruit is usually rounded or slightly pear-shaped. With a single Hass tree you can have good avocados at hand for at least seven months out of every year. I live on the edge here in the San Fernando Valley when it comes to frost (and heat) so in addition to my Reed I have planted Sir Prize, Stewart, and Mexicola as cooler weather backups. A handsome tree to about 9m x 10m, Hass is fairly cold and frost tolerant once established, and will bear its delicious fruit between September and January. Thanks a lot for contributing this. The elderly couples yard suddenly became an internet sensation and these people kept getting surprise visitors in their front yard until they asked people to take videos of their tree off of YouTube and started turning visitors away. So I tried a Reed for the first time today from the farmers market. See my short video profile of Pinkerton avocado fruit here.). Better now than never. I appreciate all the documentation! However, if youd like a B type to complement Hass for pollination and season extension then Id go with Fuerte, Sharwil, or Nabal. Theyre rich in flavor and creamy in texture without any strings. Pinkerton, For example, Ive got some avocado trees planted at 7.5 feet apart, and thats a spacing that some commercial growers use. Do you like its eating qualities about as well as Sharwil? In August I managed to order more avocado trees directly from Brokaw (Spain). I plan on keeping the trees no taller than about 12, so I dont have to get on a ladder. Then, I found out that none of the French nurseries provided any information about the rootstocks. The information I am finding on Reed says that it is best grown in Zones 10-11. You ought to add either Lamb or Reed for avocados to be eaten in summer into fall, yes; your grafting idea there is a good one. We got a Hass today, and were planning to plant it tomorrow in the sunniest spot in our yard, which usually stays pretty warm, even when its chilly. I know Sylmar, and I would guess that my neighborhood is slightly milder than yours even though my area is also on the hot side in summer and chilly side in winter, as far as most of Southern California goes. Also I love Fuertes, but only if you have a big yard. Im in Van Nuys, which is Sunset Zone 18. If the tree turns out to be a winner in your yard too, then eventually we can all benefit from the discovery. Im going to find the least cold spots on and plant the less cold hardy avocados there. Then I would eliminate the Holiday on the basis of its lower production in comparison to Pinkerton and GEM. I was also able to confirm that a huge tree in Napa which got me growing my own avocados was indeed a Puebla because of your video. What is the next most oil-based Avo after the Hass? Sometimes the selection and quality is terrible, but sometimes its excellent. 4. I grew up against the same mountains, but out in Glendora, and Bacons do great there. Its a sad fact. This is one of the reasons that Hass went from obscurity in 1945 to over 95 percent of the commercial avocado production in California today. I pre-irrigated and sprayed down the trees during the heat and prevented fruitlet drop too well. Ive only eaten them once though, a handful of years ago up in Carpinteria. Ive seen about every variety I know kept to about that height in one yard or farm or another. They're all from the same Mexican or Guatemalan stock, but they've been bred for the local climate. Try to check out the frost patterns next time we get a cold night too. Where to find Sir Prize Avocados? Usually the soil we get up here for avocados is more suited for stone fruit. Both can be considered "creamy," but Hass has higher levels of fat which makes. Note that Im really tentative about saying this. years, 7 now. The trees have a tall, upright spreading habit. The skin is green when ripe, is bumpy and of medium thickness, and peels easily. GEM trees are a bit hard to come by, unfortunately. As a matter of fact, choosing the varieties was just the beginning)))) 'Sharwil' is a Mexican and Guatemalan cross and represents more than 57% of the commercial acreage in Hawaii. I never feel like I have a palate that is refined enough to give a sufficiently florid description. After some pool renovations which sent torrents of pool water into the avo area two of the trees are completely dead. They have both Reed and Hass, both Duke 7 and Dusa. Hi Martins, I dont have extensive room for so many trees through which is why I want to graft (actually its that my wife will kill me if I try to plant more than 3 avocado trees). We planted 4 avocados in the front: Hass, Sharwil/Kona, Fuerte, and Reed. Were planting literally thousands of sharwil avocados in 30 gallon root pouches, mostly above ground. The salt tolerance of some is not extremely better than others. Ive seen high-density plantings get crowded after the first few years and then the yield is reduced and the grove is impenetrable jungle. Perhaps the Lamorinda has the answer? We also now have rain tanks and are going to try and save our rain water for the avo, as the other fruit trees do well with our water. TREE SIZES. Thank you! 2. Incidentally, similar spacings can often be used in a yard as on a farm. Miuch like Citrus, Palm and Catus mix. Its great for grapes and pomegranates, harsh for avocados. But a couple are right on the cusp of that top tier. Hey Greg, Ive got two Hass and one Fuerte. Let me know how the grafting and new trees go, and share photos of the cut fruit if you get a chance. I named the tree Lamorinda after the area it is grown which is name referring to the 3 cities of Lafayette, Moraga and Orinda. Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. That was very encouraging. 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