Eric Clapton: 9/10 The Clash -Most unworthy? On which levels do you think each of these artists belongs? I kept the same ratio. 159. Is it fair to swap players based on one series at the tail end of their careers? Are you serious? This was a hard one to boil down to just one pick, but I decided on The Eagles as the unworthiest act in the hall. We rank historical figures just as Google ranks webpages, by integrating a diverse set of measurements about their reputation (including PageRank, article length, and readership) into estimates of their fame, explained by a combination of achievement (gravitas) and celebrity. Percy Sledge: 2/10 Whitney Houston This is what this site is partly for, to share opinions and all. "Whatever Makes You Happy"- Jacki Gore, Steve Washington. 2. 14. Posted by Joe on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 02:56am, For what it's worth (and my guess), the levels for the new inductees would be: The Mamas & The Papas: 6/10 That said, the O'Jays' and the Mamas And The Papas' scores of O.000 is absolutely ludicrous, if for no other reason than saying they have no "Fame" to their name is utterly absurd. "Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway Either Sam Cooke, Fats Domino, Roy Orbison, or anyone from Motown (remember, they were taught how to move about at high society functions). Parliament - Funkadelic (Level 3) My theory is that with Costello his look and image are more important than his songwriting. how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six greatest players in the history of pro Queen: 10/10 Uh, yea. I actually think that every act up there is almost exactly where they should be. I know Giannis, Harden, and Russ won those MVPs, but KD was the best player on the best team and snatched the crown from LeBron in 2017 and 2018 when he outplayed him in both those series. 167. Level 5 Parker had a 12 year run where he was never the best point guard in the league, but he might've been the most important. Roger Daltrey is involved with the Teenage Cancer Trust. Is Paul a better athlete than Stockton? Joan Baez: 6/10 206. Distantly tied for third includes Flavor Flav, Lennon ("I'm starting a new religion, and I'm calling it baggism"), Sly Stone. 53. 88. 27. What seemed important 15 years ago may not seem as important now. Fela Kuti (Level 1) Some injury issues, but overblown. "Bad Girl" Dazz Band. Dire Straits 1990 Ma Rainey the doobie brothers - 1 The second part was a run as the second-best Robin of all-time. History of The World Part 1 My hatred of him is well documented, but I objectively can't see him as anything more than a lower-tier Bob Dylan. Up 2-0 in the Western Finals and riding a 20-game winning streak, the seemingly invincible Spurs are demolished by Kevin Durant and a Thunder team that peaked at the perfect time. Deep Purple (Level 2) You hate the way he plays. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography The Zombies: 5/10 Now I'm remembering the time I went to the Country Hall of Fame and they had an exhibit on Ray Charles. While Hall of Famers have been assigned a particular level3, there is no ranking within a particular group. Posted by Zach on Thursday, 11/27/2014 @ 23:32pm. Still recording new material and performing around places. The Pyramid has been updated through the class of 2021. 13. Revising lol, Did they hit sell millions of records, have over a dozen hits or win a lot of awards? "I'll Try Something New" Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, Barbara McNair, A Taste of Honey, Spyder Turner (as an excerpt from his cover of "Stand By Me") John Mellencamp Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid: Give Major Weakness of the top 10 NBA All Time. Dallas now has a costar alongside Luka Doncic but has precious little time to make it all work, Plus, Jonny Lazarus talks Patrick Kane joining the Rangers, Tyson and Riley are joined by Reiman (Spencer) Bledsoe to compare first-timers and reoccurring competitors, as well as the different types of advantages this season, Plus, the guys later close the show with Americas favorite segment: Two Jargons, One Lie, Justin, Rob, and Wos talk the Lakers, the Pelicans, Nikola Jokic, and more, There is also discussion of Alabamas Brandon Miller and his connection to the case of a fatal shooting, By submitting your email, you agree to our. 170. ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?? 12. 2005 Tim Duncan, 7. Again, just ANOTHER REASON why THE MIRACLES should be at Level 4 !!! Where does his beard rank among the NBAs greatest facial hairstyles ever? 110. Steve Miller Nina Simone- 4 KISS (Level 2) Off the top of my head, I think it was something like MJ, LBJ, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Duncan, Kobe, West, Oscar, Hakeem, Shaq, Moses, KD. The Impressions: 7/10 183. "As Bill Simmons said in his original article though, this is subjective. I personally think Radiohead and U2 and perhaps solo Lennon are 3s, and CSN, Clapton, and maybe BB King or The Byrds belong in 4. It's fine. 119. The Rolling Stones 5 Listen, he's going to win his 2nd MVP award at some point in the next few months. Kiss: 7/10 Posted by AlexVoltaire on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 08:03am, Deep Purple/NWA- Level 2 For new additions (NOT New Edition) to Level 5, I nominate Aerosmith, and either Aretha Franklin or Michael Jackson. Both bands have always struck me as being out of place as 1st-year inductees, and it could be a case of their influence or perceived importance decreasing over time, even their induction. Who isn't? Part of the best shooting backcourt of all-time and a key part in the Warriors dynasty. Tier 2 - Dire Straits, The Cars, Yes, ELO This need to be updated. The Supremes: 10/10 From 2016: Steve Miller: Level 1, Posted by SotN on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 03:31am. 1988 Woody Guthrie -I'll say Bobby Darin never had a drug problem (that I know of), branched out into different styles, even helped his fellow performers learn how to do their own taxes during the Caravan Of Stars tours. Hall and Oates The Stooges 162. Posted by Roy on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 07:27am, And here is my opinion about the position of the 2018 inductees: The Heat had three Pyramid guys including a Level 5 and Level 4 guy in their primes. 22. "Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson. Tina Turner-Level 1 Billy Joel YOU TELL ME !!! 2011 For some 50 years !! a.k.a. Yes, they're called idiots (just like the ~2% that didn't vote for Cobb, ~5% of voters that didn't vote for Ruth and Wagner, ~9% of voters that didn't vote for Mathewson and ~16% of voters that didn't vote for Johnson, or the idiots that took three years to vote in DiMaggio). #1 NBA community for blogging, voting in polls, taking quizzes, and public chats. There are many, many 2000s and '10s era bands that are more engaging. I could have sworn it was the other way around. What;s the first song ANY kid learns on guitar?? Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 22:09pm. Big Joe Turner Peter Gabriel Yes- 4 33. 144. Move Fleetwood Mac to 4. 10. Beat induction year: 1986, 1988, 1994, 2014, Posted by PopeCharming on Monday, 04/21/2014 @ 23:30pm, Posted by coletrain on Wednesday, 04/30/2014 @ 08:31am, The Pyramid has been updated with this year's inductees. I don't think either of them have been as influential, but obviously that's my biggest criteria. Very good insight expect Dolly should be Level 2 mostly because she's one of the most important women in popular music as a whole. Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:53pm, Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:55pm. Jason Voigt, The (Young) Rascals: 5/10 Tier 3 - Tupac Shakur, Pearl Jam I'll concede they're important enough to be in the hall, but ranking them higher than the Doors, Grateful Dead, Zappa, or even Jefferson Airplane (a possible influence) is ridiculous. The Notorious B.I.G. As Bill Simmons said in his original article though, this is subjective. Elvis Costello & The Attractions: 9/10 Probably Percy Sledge 129. DEFINITELY !! "Who's Loving You" The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa. 2016 The Police: 9/10 King seems to be a gracious gentleman. Paul McCartney at 2? Public Enemy, then Beastie Boys, then Run-DMC, then Grandmaster Flash & the Furious 5 (Cant wait to see NWA and LL Cool J get in) Most civilized: Cat, Smokey, Bruce 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons And where does Shaq rank on Bills 100-player Hall of Fame Pyramid? Is the top level EVER going to have more than twelve? Guns N' Roses N.W.A: 9/10 Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis Presley, and Chuck Berry? But the Celtics Brogdon is mounting a well-rounded campaign that hearkens back to some of the earliest Sixth Men. 1994 Yes, this high. 15. 132. A Fish Called Wanda -the Four Seasons, Black Sabbath, Queen, AC/DC Send a Message. Though if Davis and Simon couldn't be Level 2 I don't see Parton sadly. Curtis Mayfield: 9/10 Heart (high 3rd) Posted by Navonte Robertson on Monday, 07/26/2021 @ 09:57am. "The Hurt is Over" The DT's 7. 5/10 = Average/Borderline 192. John Lennon: 10/10 Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps: 7/10 Robert Parish, 67. Bob Dylan: 10/10 Posted by Follower on Monday, 01/7/2019 @ 21:17pm. Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 23:01pm. (including Chicago) Fats Domino: 10/10 Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? Both are hugely important in roots rock and country rock scenes. 11. 89. Like everyone else, there's a few changes I would make. Moses Malone, 13. 1999 Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys - This is going off the paperback version which includes everything up to the '09-'10 season. 14. Oh Wait, those dimwhits on the election committee have overlooked them again! The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . Posted by John R.C. By the way, do you guys think I was right in picking The Zombies and Bon Jovi (both level 1) for "great short career" and "very good long career" or would other acts fit those terms better? I can name more than one song by Costello (come on, at least give him Pump it Up), but I really don't see a career that matches up well against The Talking Heads in terms of influence, innovation or popularity. Electric Light Orchestra Mike Roberts WVEE-FM & WQMJ 2015 70. -First ballot? Journey Loudest other than metal: The Kinks He could've complained about being a 6th man, but didn't. The Temptations: 10/10 However, I do disagree with you on Neil Young's ranking. Posted by Follower on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 20:33pm. Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers Was Kazaam better than Steel? Posted by Philip on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 10:50am. 107. Just being a major influence on Bob Dylan alone, and really almost the entirety of folk-rock should at the very least put her midway up, probably higher, imho. As a link between boogie-woogie, jump blues, and rhythm & blues, he is a highly important name and should not be ranked lower than less relevant names like Buffalo Springfield, The (Young) Rascals, Jackson Browne, The Righteous Brothers, and Gene Pitney. Posted by Gary on Saturday, 01/5/2019 @ 04:20am. Deal wit' it, yo. 41. :), Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 03/8/2013 @ 15:51pm. 1998 AC/DC: 9/10 https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/04/ranking-every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-by-tiers.html Rush (middle 4th) CCR: 9/10 "Mickey's Monkey" Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats, The Mac Truque. Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 03:26am. on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 20:26pm, 1. Rod Stewart: 8/10 1999 Charles Brown 2015 2006 The success of the Miracles actually launched the Motown Records label, and, according to Motown Records founder, Berry Gordy, without the Miracles,the Motown Record Corporation would not have been possible." to "Did they influence a lot of acts afterwards?" I could then see Bruce Springsteen, David Bowie, Pink Floyd, and Aretha Franklin, maybe even Buddy Holly or Neil Young moving up to tier 5. Public Enemy (lower 2nd) The ultimate example of a band that had lots of hits but did nothing to develop rock 'n roll (Jackson Browne, John Mellencamp, Buffalo Springfield, Percy Sledge, Laura Nyro, Donovan, The Lovin' Spoonful, George Harrison, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, The Pretenders, Neil Diamond, and Randy Newman are all runners-up for the title of least qualified inductee) The purpose of these rules are to keep it even, in order for one artist to go up a level another artist has to go down a level. Bob Dylan I'm not going to rehash the r/NBA argument about Harden. Pearl Jam and Nina Simone are borderline Level 2/3 acts, in my opinion. Wow, thanks for sharing, where do you get all this information from if I may know? Little Richard (Level 5) 6/10 = Decent Artists It's well-researched, engaging, and I found myself discovering information about players I never knew. c) their influence on guitar and drum techniques, painstaking production methods, song structure and use of electronic effects extends far, far, FAR beyond the realms of metal. Least deserving inductee (anyone but Madonna, ABBA, or any Hip Hop inductees*)? NOW.THOSE ARE THE ACTUAL RANKINGSand you SEE just WHO ROLLING STONE Ranks as the TOP MOTOWN GROUP. Nicest inductee: Buddy Holly [if he was still alive], Queen, Roger Daltery, Tony Iommi, Fats Domino. Michael Jackson: 10/10 Metallica Dan Issel, 88. Nirvana What he has is an inflated reputation. 6. 6. The chances of me ever getting back into The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, and their compatriots are practically nonexistent. the notorious big - 2 La Bomba [same thing] Posted by Dan on Wednesday, 07/24/2013 @ 17:34pm. Talented as hell, but weird as hell. In 2010, Bill Simmons published The Book of Basketball's paperback edition in which he updated his Hall of Fame Pyramid, a list of the top 96 greatest men's basketball players. 156. Prince Rating Numbers: Of course, wherever they go, Black Sabbath still has to be above them. But if there was an "Early Influences" pyramid, then Sister Rosetta Tharpe would at least be a 4. 1997 Mahalia Jackson "More, More, More of Your Love" Bob Brady & the Con Chords I can't in good conscience not include Manu in the Pyramid. You are pleased to answer anytime you want. People will still be listening to their music, hundreds, if not thousands of years from now. "Love Machine" Wham!, Thelma Houston Kate Bush (Level 1) Parliament - Funkadelic: 10/10 25. Adande. Let me know if my analogies don't work as well. 7. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid Author Bosco Tung About 96 of the Greatest Basketball players of all time, as selected by Bill Simmons in The Book of Basketball in 2010. Bill Sharman, 60. 185. Now, look at that list of artists' cover versions of MIRACLES' songs and ask yourselves: ABBA: 7/10 Will you always remember seeing them in concert, even when you're 80 years old and peeing on yourself? 2. The Zombies The Moody Blues Topic: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid (Read 15787 times) chelo. Future Hall of Famer Steve Kerr joins Bill to discuss a quarter-century of learning The Secret in Chicago (with Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson), San Antonio (with Tim Duncan and Gregg Popovich), and Phoenix (with Steve Nash), and then how Kerr watched it unfold during his historic run as the coach of the three-time champion Golden State Warriors. Level 3 by Nash. "(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" Chuck Jackson 10.. 220. 81. Posted by Kyle on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 05:37am. Lenny Wilkens, 81. Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis Presley, and Chuck Berry? 2002 Most nicest inductee? They are a 2 at best. I'd rather they be a 3, but a lot of those 3s are untouchable. Elton John The pyramid depicted above is what the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame might look like if the inductees were organized into five increasingly elite levels. Loudest other than metal: The Who 31. Jay-Z-3 but would also be fine with 4 if Eminem gets 4 as well. Bon Jovi - 1 -the Beastie Boys The Doors Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 09:34am, In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher, at least, preferably in the middle of the 4th tier, slightly lower than Pink Floyd and slightly below, soon to be inducted, Yes. You are pleased to answer anytime you want. I'd bump them up to Level 2 simply because of how they advanced a genre that was pretty much on the fringes before they came along. Before his ACL, he was the best player in the league. Neil Young: 10/10 Cheap Trick: 6/10 Lennon's massive hypocrisy shouldn't be overlooked either. Cheap Trick: Level 2 Also, I would put The Stooges in The Clash's place. Ken Cook WAGA-TV 2015 71. In addition, the Miracles have been regarded as the most covered act in Motown's roster and have influenced numerous artists worldwide in the last 50 years. ABBA Either you have the music and the accomplishments or you don't. 2Pac - 2 -------------------------------------------------- Then, on Feb. 24, 2019, he revised Curry to be top 20. Crosby Stills and Nash IMO obviously. I cannot think of a single scandal or controversy in which he was involved, and I've never heard or read a negative word about him. Leonard Cohen Here are the questions: You love him. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/2/2019 @ 04:20am. There have been 9 completed seasons since then, so I added 14 new players for a total of 110. Stevie Wonder: 10/10 38. The Cure: 8/10 Was the Harden trade the NBAs biggest what if? ever? NWA pulls a 2 and everyone else a 1. The Go - Go's: 7/10 Bill G., Def Leppard: 6/10 Posted by Tommy on Saturday, 01/17/2015 @ 23:32pm. Skip to primary content. Chris Mullin, 94. 149. 122. I have adjustments: Most mean inductee? N.W.A 1 bestselling book around the premise in 2009.. 1987 Hank Williams YOU'D BETTER BELIEVE IT !! 1993 Dinah Washington Most weird inductee? Eminem maybe the last artist to hit Level 4. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for The Book of Basketball : The NBA According to the Sports Guy by Bill Simmons. Aretha Franklin The Ronettes: 6/10 b) every metal band post-1983 is influenced by them. Will you always remember seeing them in concert, even when you're 80 years old and peeing on yourself? Something went wrong. Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 12/9/2013 @ 00:01am, Might be interesting to some here: Clyde McPhatter: 8/10 Bob Cousy, 23. Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 10:57am. He took a Magic team with no other All-Stars to the Finals while beating LeBron in LeBron's prime. "Determination" The Contours. 125. Van Halen: 9/10 Blake Griffin doesn't make the Pyramid, but he was a Top 3 guy for a few years there. Overall personality-wise, I'll say Prince. Animal House So that doesn't really mean anything. "Bad Girl" Dazz Band, Mary Wells, Jackie Jackson. Rod Stewart All-Star Game Selections by Player; All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player; All-Defensive Team Selections by Player; Referee Awards. Muddy Waters 79. Did the management of this establishment put you up to this? Willis Reed, 34. Bill Stewart WJBF-TV 2015 72. For mine, check out my top 75. 16. Do you know when he mentioned this? Part 2 coming soon! New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Oops. The Staple Singers: 8/10 He finished Top 10 in MVP voting 4 times. "You've Got The Love I Need" - J Dilla, Raekwon. 57. Darlene Love Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble Copyright 2006-2023 futurerocklegends.com, Uncovering the Next Generation's Hall of Fame, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already, http://whoisbigger.com/entity/Category:Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees, http://whoisbigger.com/#sthash.msMujDin.dpuf, https://www.ranker.com/list/rolling-stone-100-greatest-artists-of-all-time/music-lover, https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/04/ranking-every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-by-tiers.html, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Miracles_awards_and_achievements, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography, https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/01/every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-ranked-from-best-to-bon-jovi.html. Tier 5 looks pretty solid. "My Girl Has Gone" Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker. Etta James: 9/10 Posted by Shrek on Monday, 01/7/2019 @ 13:23pm. A great scorer, but I'm not sure he was ever a good enough all-around player to be the best player on a champ despite that one year with the Nuggets. The Beatles: 10/10 It's Bill's idea and his rankings, I'm simply putting a fresh coat of paint on the building. Journey: 3/10 FJD's Book Reviews. Gail Goodrich, 100. Not sure if I spelled his last name right. Laura Nyro -Most snubbed? "A Fork in the Road " Rebbie Jackson Van Morrison Tier 4 is their place. Weirdest: Frank Zappa by one point over Michael Jackson. 60. nine inch nails - 2 or 3 Steve Miller 205. When is this pyramid gonna get updated with the class of 2017??? I love Elton John, but he does not deserve to be ranked higher than Buddy Holly & the Crickets, Black Sabbath, Bo Diddley, Fats Domino, Little Richard, The Byrds, The Doors, and others who are more innovative and influential. Lloyd Price Designated for marginal acts who are considered "Borderline Hall of Famers," either because of the Zombies Factor (great career, not long enough) or the Bon Jovi Factor (very good for a long time, rarely great). "Going to a Go-Go" The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, The Hags, and Secret Affair. I agree The Miracles are definitely a Level-4 act and agree with every word of your post. The Cars If we are using Bill Simmons' basketball pyramid as a model, it's like saying nobody performed top-notch basketball after Wilt Chamberlain was on the scene. Deep Purple: 7/10 The Last Samurai I too personally dislike thier music except "Express Yourself" and I just don't understand why so meny praise them when all they did was steer rap down a more gangester and racist path. Genesis: 7/10 James Harden is no slouch. These are basically "L3" guys, only there's something just inherently "greater" about them. Both have had three great years. 6)Patti Smith-Why is she in the hall again? Updated, thanks! 188. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts: 5/10 1986 Jimmie Rodgers 104. But Elvis Presley was known for his kindness and generosity (up to the mid-50's) He's an 11-time All-Star (everyone with 8 or more appearances is in the actual hall) and was the 3rd best player on two Champs and two Finalists. Lou Reed Dirk Nowitski (up from Level 2, below Mikan). They influenced pretty much all 90's hard rock and metal. Prince: 10/10 There are a lot of critic's darlings that fade over time. 97. If he keeps pushing for 3-4 more years and the Warriors get back to being contenders and Steph stays as a Top 10 guy in the league, he's moving up into the Dirk range and maybe the Pantheon. "Special Occasion - Jim Gilstrap. B. The Stooges (Level 3) Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? Led Zeppelin: 10/10 62. Well, nice as that was, the moment is passed, and the Ramones are virtually irrelevant to the contemporary musical landscape. it might just represent the next phase of sports commentary."The Atlantic Bill Simmons, the wildly . I'd also drop Tina Turner down to Level 1. Righteous Brothers: 7/10 99. "Who's Gonna Take The Blame" Capone N. Noreaga (as the basis of their song "Live On Live Long"). Come on guys, let's put MJ in Level 5. 2003 194. Janis Joplin 105. I'll do this by at least 3 or 4 parts. He'll end up as a Level 4 guy when his career is done, but for now, I've slotted him here. Best hip hop: I don't much care for it, but even I would concede Public Enemy's suitability. a) metal is actually such a huge genre and scene, easily the largest and most enduring underground music scene. LeBron James (up from Level 4, below Barkley). Donna Summer 1993 And how in the hell did Radiohead get on level 4? John Lee Hooker 13. 7. As Bill Simmons wrote in his article, it's just more fun to think of the Hall of Fame as a pyramid. as the going says, money is powerful in human beings life and money rules the world.I'm from a poor family in which I found it hard to feed my family "Don't Let It End (Till You Let It Begin)-Betty Everett . Frankie Lymon: Influenced Stevie Wonder, Jackson 5, Beach Boys, and The Miracles. Yes, and the rest of the list is just like you said. Del Shannon 110. 2009 None of them were saints though. Plays. He's slightly ahead of Scottie because Wade took over the 2006 Finals and Scottie never really managed to be that guy - even in '94 when he finished 3rd in the MVP voting. Even as he was on the downside of his career, he was still hitting huge shots that swung championships. "The Tracks of My Tears " Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamara, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Bjrns Vnner (as Ser Jag Ut Att M Bra? 4. Jerry Lee Lewis and The Everly Brothers should both go up in their rankings. I would also move a few artists around like replacing Madonna with some other female singer like Liz Phair or Norah Jones, moving Elton John down a rank and putting Billy Joel there, moving Sam Cooke up a bit as well as Big Joe Turner and Fats Domino. I actually think that every act up there is almost exactly where they should be. He was a musical revolutionary for whom the record industry had to create new marketing terms to describe. Allen Iverson, 42. I want to see Chicago. Marvin Gaye: 10/10 , Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/23/2014 @ 09:02am. Rating Numbers: 15. Solomon Burke: 7/10 Lynyrd Skynyrd: 8/10 I would like to do the # ratings of performers of every class, for this I'll be giving them a number between 0 -10 out of 10 based on influence & innovation on popular music. 177. The luxury of time is that it dispenses with the nonsense, the hipsterism, the favoritism, and leaves the music to stand on its own. Laura Nyro: Influenced Billy Joel. Bon Jovi Favorite inductee outside of the U.S. and the U.K.? 2013 "Come On Do The Jerk" The Righteous Brothers [64], The T-Bones Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid on: June 02, 2010, 10:15:23 pm . Deep Purple (Level 2) Favorite induction year? Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? The Beatles should be level 0, abd Poison moves up to level 5. I agree Trent and the gang have proven to be one of the staples in not just 90s rock, but music in general. I quit listening to the "Classic Rock" stuff back in my senior year of high school. On David Bowie, I agree with you on his importance in rock and roll but, I just hate it when people glorify him as the father of glam rock when T. Rex and The New York Dolls started the movement. "Got A Job" The Marcels . "Do It Baby"- Jimmy Ponder, Red Holt (of Young-Holt Unlimited). Best outside The US and UK: U2, Neil Young, Rush, Joni Mitchell, Bob Marley. Talking Heads: 9/10 I just don't have a problem with it. Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. Blondie: 8/10 Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world in every major musical genre over the last 50 years. A couple others like AC/DC The Who Y'all haven't added the new inductees yet:Chicago,Cheap Trick,NWA,Steve Miller and Deep Purple. "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. I also love the story about a lady who got a knock on her door and when she opened it it was Pirince and another guy. James Brown (and the Famous Flames) Posted by Kyle on Wednesday, 07/26/2017 @ 18:50pm. U2: 10/10 The Coasters 2. Pete Maravich, 77. 98. Dire Straits- 2 Dolly Parton (Level 2) How Far Can This Version of James Harden Take the Sixers? 5) THE SUPREMES at # 97 Foo Fighters: 8/10 Dr. John not only how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six Queen: 10/10 The (Young) Rascals: 5/10 Roy Orbison: 10/10 The Van Halen brothers managed to get rid of both their main lead singers. Pink Floyd: 10/10 Linda Ronstadt Please enter a valid email and try again. Please answer the best you can. GNR: 9/10 "(You Can) Depend On Me" The Temptations, The Supremes, Mary Wells, Brenda Holloway, Barbara Mason. Simmons just completed his BOB 2.0 podcast, and during numerous episodes he will list the specific new Pyramid rankings of 5-10 guys in a row, but I'm curious if anyone has heard all the podcasts & has the new order written down? Simmons led . Aside from that, I don't recall claiming that my shit doesn't stink; that would be very much unlike me. -Civilized? 225. Lynyrd Skynyrd: 8/10 I just heard the Bill Russell podcast (last one, I believe) and he clearly lists the top-15. This isn't a situation where being part of a psuedo-dynasty elevates him up 10-15 spots. 197. Dr. John and the Miracles I would also put Blue Cheer, Steppenwolf, Mountain, and Iron Butterfly on the pyramid too. Most civilized inductee? John Lennon 67. Posted by M. Scott on Friday, 09/23/2016 @ 02:41am. Percy Sledge: Influenced Al Green and the Allman Brothers Band. Johnny Cash, REM, Led Zeppelin, Sly & the Family Stone, Neil Young, Pink Floyd, Bruse Springsteen. Well, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already shaped like a pyramid2, so it was only natural to take Simmons' baseball idea and apply it to rock and roll. Subscribe: Apple Podcasts / Art19 / Spotify / Google Podcasts. 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